isis is comprised mainly of people who couldn't make it in al-qaida, the worst of the worst. they don't just exist in syria. they're also present in the southern philippines, another sigisis insurgency that was defeated. not the end of jihadism or the islamic ideology but the defeat of a cruel and dangerous element. arthel: i'm getting a prees a s release here, saying the he coalition congratulates the forces, the elimination of the self proclaimed territorial caliphate in the river valley, syria as well. so to what ryan was reporting, does this mean that isis now will turn up the heat on their rhetoric and spreading their ideology? >> i think they'll certainly try and do that, since they are precluded from establishing a caliphate now. but there's a consequence to defeat. it's not just a military consequence, but an idea logical one. if you think to the time when there were a lot of jihadists, leaving to fight with isis in syria, then it starts being pushed back first in the obama administration, then particularly under president trump who made this his top foreign policy pr